Comments on: Total of 2 Million Accounts Disappear

By: MarkByron Falta

MarkByron Falta — Wed, 04 Mar 2009 03:32:45 +0000

Congratulations on exposing Linden’s sneaky attempt to hide the total accounts stat as they do a massive prune of dead accounts. On the 24th of Feb, M Linden had bragged in the new blog about daily perusing “our very extensive metrics dashboard to see how the company is doing (with literally hundreds of measures for everything you can imagine from Resident satisfaction to registrations in last hour to frame-rate-per-second) for 10-15 minutes.” I called him on that in regards to cutting off public view to most all the relevant metrics and he replies, “we are reworking that part of our site now. We want to be able to share data, ensure it’s accurate and provide context around it.” LOL, the key is “provide context around it” aka “spinning the bad numbers.” Appreciate your effort in providing real numbers while Linden rammps up the corporate spin department.

By: Adz

Adz — Tue, 24 Feb 2009 02:06:54 +0000

Okay…
GroupMember.::.OnlineStatus is a String which could be useful but of course is not practical for the reasons above.
Meanwhile, DirectoryManager..::.AgentSearchData.Online is readily available but is a boolean. It just says “False”. So, yeah… what I said before stands. Phew. That would have soaked up my weekend for sure.

By: Adz

Adz — Tue, 24 Feb 2009 01:48:29 +0000

Oh, look at that... DirectoryManager..::.AgentSearchData.Online is a String. I always assumed it was a Boolean. *runs off to investigate*

By: Adz Childs

Adz Childs — Tue, 24 Feb 2009 01:23:40 +0000

That is a really excellent question. Unfortunately I don’t see how it can be done and still have LL be on my side. Last login date is not easily available. It’s certainly not returned in the regular 100-people-at-a-time people search tool. It may be hidden in individual users’ profile pages. I checked OpenMetaverse just now, and found that this information is not in public struct AvatarProperties either. But, even if it were, we’d be entering the territory of asking LL servers for 16 million queries…

In the official sl viewer, if there were an easy way to get this information, I could create a bot to automate it.
But this is not the case. In the regular viewer, this information is only available in a couple of obscure ways, as far as I know. One is if you have a specific person’s uuid and you set up a LSL script to poll their online status continuously. Another is if you are in a group that they are also in, and the group permissions allow it, you can view their last online date. And that’s only for one user.

The only ways I can think of getting that information for large numbers of accounts would really thrash the servers on LL’s side of things.

I really appreciate your question. It’s always nice to know what SLNameWatch users have in mind. Your question prompted a very nice thought exercise.

By: Peter Stindberg

Peter Stindberg — Mon, 23 Feb 2009 16:33:55 +0000

During my 2.5 years in SL I only ever met ONE other Stindberg so far – she is a few days younger than myself, still active, and I met her in summer last year by chance. Last time I checked there were some 200 Stindberg found in search. Does your bot have any way to know how many Stindbergs are still active in SL? Where I would define active as having logged in within the past 4 weeks?